[owen] Free Speech at stake?

[Josh Belbeck]

June,

You say, "Obama did not seek to stifle the expression of opinions with 
which he disagreed", except that is exactly what his campaign is doing.  
The NRA is expressing it's opinion, bought radio time, and the obama 
campaign sends letters to the station threatening their FCC license. 

Free speech is grounded in having wrong opinions.  It is my right to 
express my opinion whether or not it is factually accurate or not.  
Apparently if your opinion is different than what the obama campaign 
wants, you get threatened....imagine if it was an obama administration.

Lets apply that standard to 4 years ago when CBS ran a fraudulent story 
about bush's TANG service.  If memory serves correct, the bush campaign 
didn't threaten CBS and their affiliates with losing their FCC 
license...nor did bush encourage the DOJ to go after dan rather and his 
producers.  However, by your logic and your defense of the first 
amendment, he should have.

This is why my opinion about liberals and freedom of speech is as it 
is.  I don't want those for me, or against me to hush.  I want their 
ignorance exposed completely so that people can make up their mind.

I wonder what pundits will be allowed to say and express under an obama 
administration...apparently nothing against the messiah, and we all must 
mold to the "facts" as the messiah deems at his choosing.  Scary notion 
if you ask me.

It will be an interesting 4 years if the messiah is elected..that is for 
sure.

Josh

June wrote:
> Josh, I take first amendment issues very seriously.  So I read the  
> article you linked very carefully. In the examples offered,  Obama  
> did not seek to stifle the expression of opinions with which he  
> disagreed.   He took issue with material presented as factual that  
> was not, that misled the public.  He  did what John Kerry did not and  
> arguably should have, respond to swift boat attacks.  The man who  
> bought the Ayers ad for the American Issues Project was  Texas  
> billionaire Harold Simmons,  one of the main backers of the Swift  
> Boat Veterans for Truth who went after Kerry. Simmons, a McCain  
> fundraiser gave $2.9 million to the American Issues Project.  The NRA  
> ad misstated Obama's position on gun control.  I do not know, and  
> cannot find, what the Missouri example refers to.
>
> This liberal in your family is bothered by persuasive tactics that  
> appeal to fears rather than reason.  This article is a good example  
> of that tactic.
>
> June
>
>   
>> I've held the opinion for a long time that neither party really likes
>> free speech since they both engage in tactics that bother me greatly,
>> however, I truly believe that liberals in general REALLY don't like  
>> free
>> speech.  Liberals are constantly bothered by folks such as limbaugh,
>> hannity, coulter..et el and have consistently tried to shut them up  
>> via
>> the threat of the fairness doctrine, or by "feel good" means of  
>> calling
>> them names.  In fact, two liberal groups, mediamatters and moveon.org,
>> were started with the stated, or unstated goal of ridding the airwaves
>> of evil conservatives.
>>
>> Obama has been able to take this to another level without nary a peep
>> from the left.  Now, we all know the hysterics and conspiracy theories
>> about bush....but those haven't actually happened whereas a  
>> presidential
>> campaign which is a great judge of how an administration will act, has
>> engaged in strong arm tactics to silence those that have a different
>> opinion.
>>
>> So to the liberals in my family, are you slightly bothered,  
>> bothered, or
>> extremely upset at obama's campaign and his tactics to silence  
>> those who
>> dare question him?  Here's a link to a boston globe piece giving  
>> several
>> examples of obama's current vendetta against all that oppose him.
>>
>> http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/ 
>> 2008/10/29/the_dictator_label/
>>
>> Josh
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